In case you wondered what Fr Rohr thinks about the Cross (I know my dear friend Eugen Matei does). This spells it out a bit.
Franciscans never believed that “blood atonement” was required for God to love us. We believed that Christ was Plan A from the very beginning (Colossians 1:15-20, Ephesians 1:3-14, John 1:1-18). Christ wasn’t a Plan B after the first humans sinned, which is the way most people seem to understand the significance of the death and resurrection of Jesus. The Great Mystery of Incarnation could not be a mere mop-up exercise, a problem-solving technique, or dependent on human beings messing up. The Incarnation was not motivated by a problem but by love.
Did God intend no meaning or purpose for creation during the first 13.8 billion years? Did the sun, moon, and galaxies have no divine significance? The fish, the birds, the animals were just waiting for humans to appear? Was there no Divine Blueprint (“Logos”) from the beginning? This thinking reveals the hubris of the human species and our tendency to anthropomorphize the whole story around ourselves.Read More »
Note: See how similar is the Franciscan view of salvation as a nonviolent process to the Orthodox view, and how radically diferent from the juridical emphasis that dominates mainline Catholicand almost all Protestant and Evangelical atonement theories (based on the view of an angry God – as opposed to a loving one, who had to punish his Son in order to be able to, again, reluctanty, love his human creatures).
In the thirteenth century, the Franciscans and the Dominicans invariably took opposing positions in the great debates in the universities of Paris, Cologne, Bologna, and Oxford. Both opinions usually passed the tests of orthodoxy, although one was preferred. The Franciscans often ended up presenting the minority position. Like the United States’ Supreme Court, the Church could have both a majority and a minority opinion, and the minority position was not kicked out! It was just not taught in most seminaries. However, it was taught in some Franciscan formation centers, and I was a lucky recipient of this “alternative orthodoxy” at Duns Scotus College in Michigan from 1962-1966.
I share this background to illustrate that my understanding of the atonement theory is not heretical or new, but has quite traditional and orthodox foundations, beginning with many theologians in the Patristic period.
Liviu Horvath s-a aapucat iarasi sa sape prin teologie si nu iarta nimic.
Da-i ‘nainte, prietene, ca inapoi e jale.
Here is some solid biblical teaching on a topic that continues to divide evangelicalism, mostly because of ignorance, patriarchy and ‘holy’ misogyny.
Something worth pondering. I am sure you are not guity of this, but I am, so this is promarily for me.
I have just finished reading Rob Bell’s latest book, titled What Is the Bible?: How an Ancient Library of Poems, Letters, and Stories Can Transform the Way You Think and Feel About Everything. I really loved it and I think every evangelical should read it. The book does not say anything new, nor does the author claim to do so. It merely presents at a popular level what theologians and Bible scholars have said about it in the last hundred years.
You may ask, what is then so important about it? Here is my answer.Read More »
Here is a little bit of (early) historical theology. In case you are interested.
Professor Bart D. Ehrman met with Australian theologian and New Testament scholar Michael F. Bird at the 2016 Greer-Heard Point Counter Point Forum on February 12-13, 2016 for a two part debate. The event was held at 7:00 p.m. and Part 2 the next day at 2:00 p.m. in the Leavell College Chapel at the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. An attendee question and answer session followed the debate. The subject of the debate was “How Jesus Became God.” Read More »
Prelegere sustinuta de Prof. Max Turner, in 7 iunie 2017, la Centrul Areopagus din Timisoara.
Daca-mi pot permite un comentariu, observ si de data aceasta cit de speculativa, reductionista si deformatoare devine teologia biblica atunci cind, ca in cazul teologului penticostal Robert Menzies, analizat aici de Prof. Turner, ignora implicatiile dogmatice ale concluziilor la care ajunge. In acest caz, ideea lui Menzies ca cineva poate avea parte de darul mintuirii fara a a se bucura de darul Duhului Sfint apare ca absolut aberanta, in lumina dogmei Sfintei Treimi si a actiunii perihoretice, de nedespartit, ale celor trei persoane ale Treimii.
Some good theological stuff from Dr Adonis Vidu, Associate Professor at Gordon-Conwell Seminary in Boston.
Prietenul meu Arpi Foszto, redactorul publicatiei Revista crestina, a inregistrat recent aceasta discutie despre locul si rolul intelectualului crestin in societate.
Acesta este un inceput. Speram sa recidivam, abordind si alte subiecte, mai putin ‘scrobite’. Dat fiind insa ca sunt un incepator in domeniul media, as dori sa va cer ajutorul. Marturisesc ca nu am fost prea multumit dupa ce am facut inregistrarea si cred ca Arpi a facut o treaba foarte buna la montaj, eliminind multe dintre bilbele inevitabile ale amatorului din fata camerei. Clipul a iesit, deci, mult mai bine decit ma asteptam, chiar daca, la fel ca in orice intreprindere omeneasca, ar putea fi inbunatatit.
Daca aveti vreme sa vizionati clipul de mai sus, si sa reflectati asupra lui, va rog sa ne lasati citeva impresii la comentarii, privind chestiuni cum ar fi:
- folosul unei asemenea intreprinderi
- durata potrivita a acestor clipuri video, in lumina capacitatii de concentrare mai ales a celor tineri
- sugestii de teme care ar trebui abordate
- evaluari tehnice: unghi de filmare, fundal, context in general, pozitie, montaj, sonor, generic etc.
- observatii egate de retorica prezentarii, si orice altceva va mai vine in minte
Va multumim anticipat. Desigur, nicio problema daca nu aveti vreme de asa ceva.
Editura Doxologia din Iasi, probabil institutia ortodoxa cu cel mai consistent program editorial de la noi, anunta pe situl ei aparitia, cu binecuvintarea IPS Teofan, Mitropolitul Moldovei si al Bucovinei, a unei carti de exceptie:
Cartea este o adaptare pentru publicare sub forma de carte a tezei de doctorat in patristica a domnului Danut-Vasile Jemna, sustinuta in 2013 sub indrumarea Pr Prof Stelian Tofana, de la Facultatea de teologie ortodoxa a Universitatii Babes-Bolyai din Cluj, care semneaza si prefata cartii.
Iata descrierea acestei lucrari academice, asa cum apare ea pe situl editurii:
Punctul cheie al antropologiei Sf. Irineu este conceptul de incoruptibilitate, care marchează relația dintre om și Dumnezeu, atât în planul „pre- cădere”, cât și în cel „post-cădere”, cu implicații hristologice, pentru că incoruptibilitatea are relație cu spațiul de referință și semnificația soteriologică a Întrupării, dar și ecleziologice și pnevmatologice, întrucât ea, ca destin al omului, este realizată de către Duhul Sfânt, în Biserică. Aşadar, avându-se în vedere penuria de literatură biblică românească referitoare la tema în dezbatere, o lucrare pertinentă, de anvergură, la nivelul unei analize exegetice comparative, cu referințe bibliografice la cele mai noi rezultate ale cercetării biblice moderne, se impunea demult. Cartea de față a D-lui Dănuț Jemna este un început, dar, cu toate acestea, ea nu are deloc caracteristicile unei abordări de inițiere în temă, ca astfel, să lase, din capul locului, spațiu pentru nenumărate alte încercări cu statut orientativ. Ea este mai mult decât un început; cel puțin pentru câteva capitole, cartea se prezintă ca o finalitate de abordare a conceptului de „incoruptibilitate” în antropologia Sf. Irineu. Iată, aşadar, de unde necesitatea unei astfel de lucrări în teologia românească, în general, și în cea biblică, în special. (Stelian Tofana)
Cartea poate fi comandata direct pe situl editurii, la linkul de mai sus.
Felicitari prietenului meu, Dr Danut Jemna, pentru aceasta importanta aparitie editoriala, si multumesc pentru primirea in dar a cartii, cu semnatura autorului, chiar inainte de aparitia ei in librarii. Ramin indatorat. Mult succes mai departe si in cele citeva proiecte aditoriale la care lucreaza acum, fie in domeniul teologiei (un catehism de casatorie), fie in primul sau domeniu de specialitate, statistica (un curs de econometrie).
April 19, 2017
Last night, Sarah Bessey (we’re fans!) began a conversation about the strange, sexist, abusive, and toxic things Christian women are told on a regular basis. We’ve been leaning into the conversation and doing our best to keep a record of the profound and heartbreaking stories women and male allies are sharing. We’ve collected some of the most powerful tweets so far in a list, and we’re inviting our audience to follow the ongoing conversation happening on Twitter under #ThingsOnlyChristianWomenHear.
If you have a relevant story or experience, please join the conversation yourself or share in the comments below.
1. “You can teach the women and children, you just can’t teach the men.” –Charlie Grantham
2. “You are an amazing leader! You’d make an excellent pastor’s wife someday!” –Sarah Bessey
3. “Women are too emotional to be leaders and pastors. It would never work.” –Jesse HarpRead More »
I continue to believe that the doctrine of Scripture and hermeneutics are the batttle grounds for the future of the soul of evangelicalism (if that battle is not already lost for good; which I am still not sure). It seems Benjamin Corey agrees.
Scot McKnight shares today this post on patriarchy by Rachel Elizabeth Asproth. Here is a summary:
1. Patriarchal History Questions the Importance of Women’s Existence
2. Patriarchal History Minimizes Women’s Contributions
3. Patriarchal History Pigeon-Holes Women
4. Patriarchal History Is Hyper-Focused on Female Sexuality
I am doing a series on the blog about why I became Anglican, and last week I looked at the church calendar, and this week I want to dip into “worship,” by which I mean Sunday morning worship service. (I do not equate worship with Sunday morning worship, but Sunday morning worship is worship.)
If the church calendar shapes the church themes, the church liturgy for Holy Eucharist is shaped by a customary set of elements of the worship service. Each of these is needed, each is integrated into the other, and each is formative for Christian discipleship. To repeat from last week’s blog post, I don’t idealize or idolize Anglican worship, but I believe it is a mature, wise, and deeply theological tradition at work.
I have taken for my text this morning last week’s worship guide, or bulletin. Here are the elements of our worship and eucharist celebration: processional hymn, a call to worship, the Word of God, the proclamation of the Word of God, the Nicene Creed, prayers of the people, confession of sin, passing the peace, and then we move into Eucharist beginning with an offering, doxology, the great thanksgiving, breaking of bread, a prayer of thanksgiving and we close with a blessing.Read More »
Biblical messages often proceed from historical incidents, but the actual message does not depend upon communicating those events with perfect factual accuracy. Any good writer knows that! Spiritual writers are not primarily journalists. Hebrew rabbis and scholars sometimes used an approach called midrash in which they reflected on a story to communicate all of its underlying message. Scripture can be understood on at least four levels: literal meaning, deep meaning, comparative meaning, and hidden meaning. Midrash allowed and encouraged each listener to grow with a text and not to settle for mere literalism, which of itself bears very little spiritual fruit. Some Christians do the same today with mature, reflective reading of Scripture (lectio divina), but Jesus and ancient Jewish teachers were much more honest and up front about this.
Whatever is received is received according to the manner of the receiver. This was drilled into me during my seminary education. People at different levels of development will interpret the same text (or homily) in different ways. There is no one right way to interpret sacred texts. Such a singular approach was a defensive posture that emerged more strongly after the fights of the Reformation and the attacks of the Enlightenment. How you see is what you see; the who that you bring to your reading of the Scriptures matters. Is it a defensive who? An offensive who? A power-hungry who? A righteous who? Surely, this is why we need to pray before reading a sacred text!Read More »
I begin a series that will seek to shed some light on why I am Anglican. Image used with permission. More than twice a month I am asked “Why did you become Anglican?” The answer to […]
Source: Why Be Anglican?
I get this question too, a lot. So, here is some answer, even if here and there my enphases would be slightly diffeerent than those of Scot McKnight.
Rev. Ovidiu Dorin Druhora de la Biserica Romana Emanuel din Los Angeles, Ca. a finalizat recent cu succes teza sa de doctorat. Iata mai jos citeva detalii despre aceasta.
Protestantism si Ortodoxie pe continentul nord american
Profesor dr. Remus Rus
Prezenta teză de doctorat își propune să contribuie prin demersul ei științific la optimizarea dialogului interconfesional. Cercetarea se va limita la examinarea literaturii teologice recente, a documentelor și consultațiilor care au avut loc pe continentul nord- american, cu referință la viața spirituală a celor două tradiții creștine, pe o perioadă de timp bine determinată. Această perioadă va acoperi peste o sută de ani, justificată cronologic între 1910 și anul curent.
Demersul cercetării pornește de la premisa că dialogul ecumenic este un deziderat născut din spiritul dragostei creștine și a respectului reciproc, dar care își definește sensul și relevanța în rugăciunea Mântuitorului Cristos cu privire la unitatea creștină și misiunea Bisericii pentru lumea contemporană (Ioan 17:21). Lucrarea se situează la interferența interogației cu răspunsurile posibile la întrebarea: “cum este cu putință ca cele două tradiții să intre într-un dialog autentic, astfel încât să ajungă să recunoască viața și harul lui Cristos în aproapele din cealaltă confesiune?”Read More »
Monogenēs once more. Kevin Giles Following the 2016 Evangelical Theological Society annual conference in San Antonia where Dr. Bruce Ware and Dr. Wayne Grudem publicly announced that they had […]
Kevin Giles again about the Trinitarian ‘heresies’ of Wayne Grudem and the rest of his fundamentalist bunch. This time of ‘the doctrine of the eternal generation of the Son’.
Here are the recordings of the lectures given recently by NT Wright at the Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Tx.
Love, Live, and Delight: Conversations in Central and Eastern Europe on present day documents and commitments on mission
13-18 February 2017, Osijek, Croatia
The 2017 CEEAMS Annual conference seeks to actively engage in worldwide conversations on four mission documents of the last years:
1. The Cape Town Commitment (CTC) discussed at the Third Lausanne Congress for World Evangelization in 2010, and published by the Lausanne Movement in 2011;
2. Together Towards Life (TTL), accepted in 2013 at the 10th General Assembly of the World Council of Churches in Busan, Korea;
3. the Evangelii Gaudium (EG), which concluded the year of Faith (2013) and was written in the first year of Pope Franciscus’ Pontificate.
4. The Mission of the Orthodox Church in Today´s World (MOCT) – adopted in 2016 as an official document on mission at its Holy and Great Council. https://www.holycouncil.org/-/missionorthodox-church-todays-world
The conference seeks to identify key themes which are missiologically relevant for churches and Christian communities in Central and Eastern Europe, to critically analyse these documents and find ways of their translatability at academic level and in mission praxis, in and beyond in the region.
Conflicts, clashes, people worrying for their future, isolation, fear for the unknown, characterise the societies of Central and Eastern Europe; Christian communities and churches are challenged not to lose contact with each other and to open up to the societies to which they belong. Love, live and delight are calls for action prominently expressed in these four documents; they are active verbs more than ever relevant in the Europe of 2017, in which so much attention will be given to the 500th anniversary of the Reformation. Delighting in God, loving God and the fellow human being in order to be able to live together are the basic biblical values from which this conference seeks to find ways through which words of faith transform into lived faith.Read More »
Do you love your faith so little that you have never battled a single fear lest your faith should not be true? Where there are no doubts, no questions, no perplexities, there can be no growth.
– George MacDonald
In my spiritual memoir, Water To Wine, part of the story I tell involves my own journey away from cheap certitude toward an authentic faith. It is a phenomenon of modernity that certitude (mental assent toward something as an absolute empirical fact) has become confused with faith (an orientation of the soul toward God in the form of deep trust).
That this phenomenon is prevalent among certain streams of Christians is strangely ironic since this involves genuflecting at the altar of empiricism and privileging knowledge over faith. Privileging empiricism above faith as the final arbiter of truth is a hallmark of modernity, but it is also antithetical to Christianity.
Certitude is a poor substitute for authentic faith. But certitude is popular; it’s popular because it’s easy. No wrestling with doubt, no dark night of the soul, no costly agonizing over the matter, no testing yourself with hard questions. Just accept a secondhand assumption or a majority opinion or a popular sentiment as the final word and settle into certainty.
Certitude is easy…until it’s impossible. And, that’s why certitude is so often a disaster waiting to happen. The empty slogan “the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it” is cheap certitude, not genuine faith.Read More »
The paper below was given by Kevin Giles at the plenary forum on the Trinity at the Evangelical Theological Society annual conference, 15th November, 2016 at San Antonia. The other speakers were Dr Bruce Ware, Dr Millard Erickson and Dr Wayne Grudem; Dr Sam Storms presided.
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Thank you, Dr Storms, for your welcome. It is a huge honor to be invited to give the introductory address at this ETS plenary forum on the Trinity.
In putting my case this afternoon I am going to speak very forthrightly and unambiguously, as from past experience I am sure Dr Grudem and Dr Ware will do. Dr Erickson who stands with me in opposing Dr Grudem and Dr Ware’s teaching on the Trinity I am sure will be the clearest in what he says and the most gracious. I speak bluntly because the issues we are discussing are of monumental importance for the evangelical community. I believe what Dr Grudem and Dr Ware teach on the Trinity, and now very large numbers of evangelicals believe, contradicts what the Nicene creed, the Reformation and post-Reformation Protestant confessions and the ETS doctrinal statement teach.
To begin my presentation, I make three matters perfectly clear. First, I have no distinctive doctrine of the Trinity. My exposition of the Trinity which follows is simply an outline of what I consider to be the historic, orthodox doctrine of the Trinity as spelt out in the Nicene Creed. I know absolutely nothing about a so-called “evangelical egalitarian doctrine of the Trinity”
What this means is that I have basically the same understanding of the Trinity as the many complementarian confessional Reformed theologians who have “come out” in opposition to Dr Grudem and Dr Ware’s teaching on the Trinity. What this immediately reveals is that the divide on the Trinity is not between evangelical egalitarians and complementarians but between creedal and confessional evangelicals and non-creedal and confessional evangelicals.Read More »
Aceasta prezentare a avut loc la 6 octombrie 2016 in Amfiteatrul Auditorium Maximum a Universitatii din Cluj, la invitatia celor de la Edictum dei.
Andre Gaitanaru a publicat recent, pe platforma Contributors, un text foarte consistent, legat de initiativa asa-numitei Aliante pentru Familie, privind modificarea Constitutiei in sensul definitiei familiei ca uniunea intre un barbat si o femeie.
Redau mai jos citeva fragmente semnificative din acest text, care incearca sa sugereze necesitatea unei dezbateri reale, pe argumente, in legatura cu aceasta initiativa (sublinierile cu aldine imi apartin).
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Proiectul de modificare a modului în care este definită familia în cadrul Constituției, susținut de mai multe Biserici creștine, a fost o greșeală. Nu susțin acest lucru în pofida faptului că sunt ortodox, ci tocmai pentru că sunt unul sau, cel puțin, pentru că încerc să fiu unul. Ceea ce înseamnă că mă străduiesc să cunosc pe cât pot de bine tradiția Sfinților Părinți ai Bisericii și să o interiorizez prin intermediul vieții bisericești. …urmărind chestiunea schimbării modului în care familia este definită în Constituție, am ajuns treptat la concluzia că Inițiativa a pornit de la o îngrijorare legitimă pentru modul în care Creștinismul înțelege lumea, dar a sfârșit prin a acționa pe coclauri străine acestuia.
Pot creștinii să impună la nivelul Constituției o definiție a familiei și a căsătoriei conformă antropologiei creștine? Dacă ne grăbim să spunem că da, ar trebui să ne întrebăm atunci de ce nu mergem ceva mai departe. De ce, de pildă, creștinii ortodocși nu ar cere scoaterea în afara legii a celorlalte culte. În fond, conform Ortodoxiei, la noi este învățătura cea dreaptă. Celelalte confesiuni sunt, ca atare, mai mult sau mai puțin heterodoxe. Iar alte culte sunt de-a dreptul erezii. Câtă vreme avem majoritatea, de ce să nu impunem restrângerea conceptului de „cult” conform învățăturii ortodoxe? Avem o lege a cultelor?! A se slăbi! O modificăm și pe ea. Sau putem să o luăm invers. Ce s-ar întâmpla dacă creștinii ar fi minoritari în România, iar o majoritate atee ar decide să adauge în Constituție faptul că Dumnezeirea este o plăsmuire a minții? Ce ne-ar mai putea proteja în acel context? Singura noastră pavăză ar fi tocmai canonul constituțional care filtrează prin intermediul legilor sale deciziile majorității din cadrul unei democrații.Read More »
Jonathan Merritt, from Religion News, has produced another extremely interesting interview, this time with well-known pastor and theologian Eugene Peterson, the author of The Message, a very inspired, I think, contemporary paraphrase of the Bible. Here are a few quotes (the emphases are mine).
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…I never really thought I’d be a pastor because I had so many pastors I didn’t respect. I just assumed I would be in academic work, so I started doing that—I went to seminary and graduate school to be a professor. And then I became a professor at the seminary in New York City where I graduated. But they didn’t pay me very much. Greek and Hebrew professors aren’t very high on the pay scale. So I got a part-time job in a church, because I had been ordained but just to be a professor. I’d never been around a pastor who was a man of God, to tell you the truth.
…pastoring is not a very glamorous job. It’s a very taking-out-the-laundry and changing-the-diapers kind of job. And I think I would try to disabuse them of any romantic ideas of what it is. As a pastor, you’ve got to be willing to take people as they are. And live with them where they are. And not impose your will on them. Because God has different ways of being with people, and you don’t always know what they are.Read More »
A visual summary of Paul and the Faithfulness of God by NT Wright. In this video, Marlin Watling gives an overview of the key insights from one of today’s finest theologians. Covering the ancient world of Paul, the worldview of the Apostle, his key theological insights, as well as the consequences of his theology towards his world. In 19 pictures you will have a view on 1.700 pages of NT Wright’s theology.Read More »